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OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN: What Went Right?


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Full article: http://www.boxoffice...ght-for-mon-325

 

 

Director Antoine Fuqua's Olympus Has Fallen exceeded all expectations this past weekend with an impressive $30.5 million opening frame (pending actual results later today). That bested the director's previous best opening of $22.6 million from 2001's Training Day, but more importantly it represents the best opening from an action film in 2013 so far.

 

Beyond that, Olympus smashed distributor FilmDistrict's previous best opening weekend (Red Dawn's $14.3 million in November). The film is locked to become both Fuqua's and FilmDistrict's highest grossing domestic release yet.

 

What went right? The signs for the film weren't outright horrible going into Friday but metrics like Twitter, Flixster, and Facebook were pointing to a more modest opening. The simple is answer that Olympus capitalized on and offered what A Good Day to Die Hard failed to last month: a popcorn action flick with an appealing concept and strong ensemble cast. Some audiences--which have given Olympus a solid "A-" CinemaScore--have lovingly referred to it as "Die Hard in the White House".


Edited by ShawnMR, 25 March 2013 - 09:01 AM.

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IMO, originality might not be something that you can use to describe Olympus, but imo, it fits. The story is derived from many action films with Die Hard being the most obvious. There is even a scene in Olympus where Mike is talking to his wife on cell (after he has been injured) and he is telling her that he loves her, and he is picking a piece of glass out of his body. Kind of like Die Hard when McClane is telling Powell to tell his wife he loves her, while picking glass out of his feet.

BUT!!

Taking down the White House and shooting up Washington DC is original. We have never seen a movie that does this. I know Hollywood doesn't need permission to make fictional movies, but my impression is that they did seek some kind of permission from Washington. And after Wash said "Sure no problem, just make sure the bad guys taking over the WH is about as probable as there really being a Santa Clause," they did it.

That was the hook for me. And that hook worked. The taking of the White House is breath taking and it is one of the best action sequences in any film.

I know some of the members here don't like it when i bash the critics, but I'm going to do it again. Critics hate this movie for all the reasons we as paying movie goers like it. It's over the top, cliched, has some cookie cutter dialogue and the action never lets up. Maybe they wanted more character development. Maybe they wanted less cliche. But when you have dialogue like, "Let's you and I play a game of Fuck Off, you go first." and the crowd erupts with laughter, you know exactly why you paid 12 bucks for the film, because it entertains you.

There have been a lot of action films that have outright tanked this year. Statham doing Statham stuff, Arnold looking old and Sly looking too botoxed just won't cut it anymore (unless they are in the film together). But put a very impressive cast together and give it a very good director and make it larger than life and you have a hit. I think it worked because it blended originality with a splash of homage to some of the action films of the past.

I think this will be remembered in 20 years as one of the defining action films of our time.

Edited by baumer, 25 March 2013 - 09:23 AM.

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Is it R?


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In addition to Die Hard completely tanking, I think general audiences are sick of action heroes being boys and not men. Especially when it comes to older demographics, WHD features a cast that is not only talented but believable in their roles. 


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Is it R?

 

In the US, yes, here in Canada it is 14A.

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Oh great that means Gerard Butler will make five more years of crappy romantic comedies.


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Right movie at the right time. Action movies have been scarce since Skyfall (the awful looking Die Hard notwithstanding) and this, with an interesting hook and a few recognizable actors, filled the void


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Me and a couple of friends had seen it at an advance screening around 3 weeks ago. Once the movie was done, the first thing that almost all of us said was "That felt more like a Die Hard movie than the actual Die Hard movie from last month".

 

In hindsight, the movie has large plotholes, side-plots which seem important but are discarded in record time and a villain whose plan makes very little sense 

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We discussed this in our group and could not figure out why exactly we were so willing to forgive all the plotholes and recommend the movie to people - the only answer we could figure out is that the movie kept moving at such a fast clip that we didn't have any time to dwell on plot conveniences and contrivances, unlike say "Prometheus" where my friend screamed at the screen when Holloway took off his helmet (the people in the theater didn't care too much for his screaming).

 

Also, this was a balls to the wall action movie which did not shy away from actually showing blood and people getting shot, the stakes just seemed higher for that reason.

 

Oh, and Morgan Freeman deadpanning a coffee order before he starts his acting-President duties. He makes any movie better.


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Right movie at the right time. Action movies have been scarce since Skyfall (the awful looking Die Hard notwithstanding) and this, with an interesting hook and a few recognizable actors, filled the void

Snitch, Last Stand, Bullet to the Head, Parker....there have been plenty of action movies. I don't think this filled any kind of a void. It's not like we didn't have choices before this one.
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Me and a couple of friends had seen it at an advance screening around 3 weeks ago. Once the movie was done, the first thing that almost all of us said was "That felt more like a Die Hard movie than the actual Die Hard movie from last month".
 
In hindsight, the movie has large plotholes, side-plots which seem important but are discarded in record time and a villain whose plan makes very little sense 

Spoiler

 
We discussed this in our group and could not figure out why exactly we were so willing to forgive all the plotholes and recommend the movie to people - the only answer we could figure out is that the movie kept moving at such a fast clip that we didn't have any time to dwell on plot conveniences and contrivances, unlike say "Prometheus" where my friend screamed at the screen when Holloway took off his helmet (the people in the theater didn't care too much for his screaming).
 
Also, this was a balls to the wall action movie which did not shy away from actually showing blood and people getting shot, the stakes just seemed higher for that reason.
 
Oh, and Morgan Freeman deadpanning a coffee order before he starts his acting-President duties. He makes any movie better.

 

Fantastic post.

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Since Skyfall, we had Jack Reacher. No? Does that count?


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1 ) The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 2) Gravity 3) The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug 4) Pacific Rim 5) Man of Steel

 

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Since Skyfall, we had Jack Reacher. No? Does that count?

Yes it does.  But those films are all holiday films.  Once you hit January, you are no longer in the holiday mode. Different quarter, different season.


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 Snitch, Last Stand, Bullet to the Head, Parker....there have been plenty of action movies. I don't think this filled any kind of a void. It's not like we didn't have choices before this one.

 

They all looked small, though. Chase scenes and fistfights instead of the out-and-out mayhem of this


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After reading baumer's post, and hearing that its R, I'm definitely gonna check this out.


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They all looked small, though. Chase scenes and fistfights instead of the out-and-out mayhem of this

But that's different.  Your first statement is that there were a lack of acction films.  Your second statement is that there were no interesting looking action films that seemed to be on this kind of scale.  And that I agree with.


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Fair enough, I meant large scale action movies but I guess I didn't clarify that, haha.


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Man I'm really glad an old school action flick like this is doing well. Getting sick of all the comic book crap.


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Well shit, I guess I have to see Olympus now


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I have to wait 6 weeks. :(


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