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Air New Zealand has screened the AUJ Extended Edition on flights. Spoilers are leaked online, so we know a decent amount of the additional/new footage. I'll look for the link, unless someone else gets it sooner.

 

SPOILERS!!

 

 

These are the Extended Edition scenes from “The Hobbit” that I remember. Please note that these are only my memories of the scenes, not word for word transcriptions or anything. As such, I may have gotten things wrong. PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU DON’T WANT TO BE SPOILED! I believe the Extended Edition comes out on 22 October, so you can just wait until next week. Otherwise, here are the dozen new scenes that I actually remember. (The extended edition was shown on today’s Air New Zealand flight that I took from Auckland to Melbourne.)

1. The introduction— in the scene where even the Elves come to pay homage to the Arkenstone, they show the scene with Thranduil approaching the throne. The new part is that Thror motions for a dwarf to bring forward a big chest of gorgeous jewels, which he presents to Thranduil. Thranduil looks entranced, and reaches for the gems, but the dwarf cruelly closes the lid before Thranduil can reach it. 
[I suspect this is where a lot of Thranduil’s animosity toward dwarves comes from!]
2. In Bilbo’s introduction, “this is where I come in…” and there’s a flashback scene to a party in the Shire (likely one of the Old Took’s midsummer parties), with Gandalf setting off lovely fireworks. A small hobbit boy comes running up to Gandalf and starts batting at him playfully, trying to catch his sleeves. The boy is young Bilbo, and we see his mother Belladonna come running after him to tell him to stop before embracing Gandalf as an old friend. [I don’t remember who plays Belladona, but she’s lovely… dark hair in curls. I looked in the credits to see who was listed, but didn’t recognize the name and didn’t have a pen to write it down with.]
3. After Gandalf meets Bilbo on the front bench, Bilbo goes into Hobbiton to buy himself his supper. He’s suspiciously looking everywhere to make sure Gandalf isn’t still around, as he buys his fish and talks to a neighbor. It’s actually a very funny scene, because he sees a gray hat-shaped form behind a wall and runs for it to avoid Gandalf, but it’s actually just another Hobbit carrying a tall load :D
4. There were a lot of small little bits added in to the scene with the dwarves in Bilbo’s house—  I can’t remember them all, but they added some nice bits of character.
Rivendell had the most new scenes, from what I can recall… I was so pleased with this entire part of the extended edition, and wish they’d kept all of these bits in the original movie!
5. THE BEST SCENE IN THE ENTIRE MOVIE OKAY I’M NOT EVEN KIDDING. Kili is sitting at the table and he glances over at one of the Elvish musicians and catches her eye… and then winks at her. Dwalin catches him flirting with the Elf, and gives him a dirty look, and Kili quickly starts making excuses… “None of them are attractive, not enough facial hair! That’s what I want in a woman, a good beard” and so on and so forth. Dwalin obviously doesn’t believe any of Kili’s shit. Then Kili points to another Elf and says, “Although, that one isn’t so bad,” and Dwalin gives him a level looks and says, “That’s a male.” and everyone bursts out laughing, to Kili’s embarrassment. 
[Someone please write me the AU where Kili basically spends the entire two weeks or whatever in Rivendell sleeping around with as many Elves as he can, and Dwalin totally knows it’s going on but he won’t say anything because he doesn’t want to give Thorin a heart attack.]
6. After Ori complains about the green food, we see Nori complaining to the harp player because the music sounds like he’s at a funeral. He asks her to change it up a bit. Bofur leaps to his feat and then climbs the nearest object (a round stone sculpture that might very well be what Frodo sets the ring on when the Fellowship first meets in LOTR) and starts to sing and throw food. The other dwarves quickly join in. The song was brilliant, I wish I could remember it! And then one of the dwarves throws a big chunk of food at Lindir, and the look on his face!! We also see Nori slide a fancy salt-shaker into his jacket pocket.
7. There was a scene with Thorin after Elrond explains about the swords, but I honestly can’t remember it. I’m going over and over with it in my head, and I’m blanking. 
8. A scene where Lindir and Elrond are walking through Rivendell. Lindir says, “My lord, the kitchens are being severely strained, and we’re almost entirely out of wine. When are these dwarves leaving?” and Elrond gives a non-answer. They turn the corner, and the dwarves are all in a large fountain, stripped down to their smallclothes, and stacked three high on each other’s shoulders, having a battle to push over the other dwarf-tower. 
9. While the dwarves are burning furniture and Bofur is throwing sausages to Bombur, Bilbo is outside on the stairs next to their balcony. He spots Gandalf and Elrond walking and listens in on their conversation. They’re discussing Erebor and Thorin, and how Thorin’s retaking of the Mountain could give the side of Good a stronghold in the East. Elrond points out, though, that Thror and Thrain both went mad, and the same fate is very likely in store for Thorin. Bilbo turns around, and Thorin is standing behind him, looking devastated but obviously not denying the possibility. It’s a really intimate moment between Bilbo and Thorin, this realization that a) they’re being manipulated to give the side of Good a better foothold, and B) that Elrond is so clinically discussing Thorin’s eventual madness, and Bilbo is now aware of what may be to come. 
10. In the Goblin caves, there are two scenes that are new. The first is the Goblin King singing a song as the company is brought forward. All of the Goblin’s join in. It’s a pretty bad song (both musically and lyrically) about torture and the like. I actually enjoyed it, though, I like the characterization it gives the Goblin King.
11. When the Goblin King comes forward to start interrogating (Ori, the youngest), all of the company quickly step forward to try to stall. Oin comes forward and says that he’s the one they need to talk to, but his ear trumpet has been squashed so he can’t hear anything. Bofur then steps forward and pretends to be in charge…. “How did we get here? Well that’s a funny story. We were traveling down the road. Well, you can’t really call it a road. A path. We were traveling down a path. No, not even that… a trail. So we were traveling down a trail, on our way to a meeting of our kin!”  and so on. Finally Thorin steps forward.
12. When the Goblin King orders the dwarves to be searched, one of the goblins dumps a big pile of Nori’s stolen goods on the ground. There are spoons and an Elvish candlestick (“Second Age Elvish make”, the Goblin King declares, “You couldn’t give this away,” and he tosses it aside) and more. Someone (I think it was Dori) gives Nori grief about it, and Nori just shrugs and grins. I love this characterization of Nori, because Jed Brophy has talked before about how he wanted Nori’s character to be a thief, and but we never got to see any of that characterization before. 
I’m sure there were other scenes. In fact, I’m positive of it. But I’m running on about four hours of sleep, and I just couldn’t remember anymore. I’ll add to this if it comes to me, but hopefully other people who fly ANZ will get to see it and give more complete descriptions. And if nothing better gets posted over the weekend, I’ll pull my laptop out on the flight home and transcribe as much as I can in the 3.5 hour flight, word for word, or try to record some of it on my camera.
[All of that said, it is totally worth buying the Extended Edition if you’re interested in seeing more characterization of Bilbo and the Dwarves. There’s not a lot more fighting added in, but I genuinely believe that these extra scenes add more to the movies as a whole, and that some of the scenes, like #1, #5, and #9 will be important in the second movie.]

 

SOUNDS BRILLIANT!!


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So the runtime is 156 minutes. Seems about right.

 

Where did you get that number?


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Weren't they just the theatrical editions?

Mostly it's the theatrical cuts, but last year at my theater they did the EE marathon. whew. We made it all the way through, classy experience but this year it's the TC again :)



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Where did you get that number?

 

"For Your Consideration" booklet. 


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I liked AUJ, but not enough to watch the extended editions. Although I swear by the LOTR extended editions.


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So the runtime is 156 minutes. Seems about right.

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:sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Catching Fire will last 146 minutes so I guess you should only fell asleep for 10 minutes.


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SPOILERS!!

 

 

SOUNDS BRILLIANT!!

 

Seems unclear based on that if we'll get the shot from the original trailer of Bilbo walking by the shards of Narsil


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156 minutes? I'll be so proud of PJ if he gets the next one under 150.


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I wonder if, for There and Back Again, they'll have a big marathon of the entire series. Because it was a feat of endurance to survive the LOTR Extended cut marathon some theaters had before the Hobbit.

That was quite a day. So fun, though!



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Seems unclear based on that if we'll get the shot from the original trailer of Bilbo walking by the shards of Narsil

Pretty sure we will. There is a video (German dub) that looks to be the legitimate WB advertisement for AUJ in Germany. The Narsil scene was featured in the video.

 

Found it. Like I said, in German. But it gives us some peeks. There be spoilers:

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=hB7GWwPKMwE



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daym Im usually spoiler free but my hands are itching to open the link & read the airlines description above

 

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RESIST!

*runs away*

 

Really wish some of our local theater did the LOTR marathons :(


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daym Im usually spoiler free but my hands are itching to open the link & read the airlines description above

 

Read it, precious.

 

WE MUST READS IT!!


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Shay's opinion on superhero and YA movies: they have oversaturated the market, and I hated them even before that happened, for the same reason: superheroes are meant for children only, just like YA are obviously meant for teens, which makes them inherently stupid. There are of course exceptions for the superheroes - like Watchmen, but it is a decontsruction of the genre, so same thing. The BIG point here, though, is: superhero movies at least have a LOT of visuals and action, and expensive look. Which - especially in the recent years - more than makes up for their stupidity. Moreover, Marvel started investing in the best talents out there (directors, actors and even writers) so as to escape the terrible legacy of their moronic superhero properties - and it worked. While YA movies - they have nothing, they're just ugly, depressing and stupid. The greedy little Lionsgate should bomb and dissapear completely.


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Is the 156 runtime with credits
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daym Im usually spoiler free but my hands are itching to open the link & read the airlines description above

 

MUST

RESIST!

*runs away*

 

Really wish some of our local theater did the LOTR marathons :(

I know that some of the major theater chains do marathons for big films like this. At the least, I think AUJ will be shown at 9:00 the night of the DOS premiere, if one so desires.

 

But yeah, I'd love to see another Trilogy Tuesday type of event with this trilogy.



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Is the 156 runtime with credits

 

Usually any listed runtime includes credits.


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"For Your Consideration" booklet. 

 

I haven't heard a peep about its running time anywhere. You would think it would be all over LOTR/Hobbit sites if it's written down somewhere...


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I haven't heard a peep about its running time anywhere. You would think it would be all over LOTR/Hobbit sites if it's written down somewhere...


I RSVP'd to a screening on the WB lot and it lists 156min as the runtime.

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"RSVP"?


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I RSVP'd to a screening on the WB lot and it lists 156min as the runtime.

 

We should start calling you Jay Hollywood. ;)


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